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Douglas Drown's avatar

Whike I agree that Trump's eventual downfall is inevitable, what thus piece apparently fails to comprehend is that while the MAGA movement is unrelenting in its fealty to its Fearless Leader, if he does go they will quickly lift up someone to replace him. Their ideology, and their commitment to it, is not going to go away. The likely candidate, of course, will be Vance. So while we may be celebrating in the short term, I wonder about the long term.

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Phil B.'s avatar

As with any "cult of personality", there is nobody that the MAGA cult will coalesce around when Trump eventually leaves the scene. Most cult leaders don't groom a successor.

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BGPicker's avatar

This. Cult leaders are not replaceable. It takes YEARS of grooming by someone with actual charisma to be elevated to a cult leader. Cult adherence is pure emotion-logic is completely locked out. C.K. was a cult leader….Couch Fucker is trying to kid himself that “logically” he is his replacement… doesn’t work like that.

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D.J. Diebold's avatar

As a behavioral health therapist, you are 100% correct.

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Talula's avatar

From your lips!

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Susan Swan's avatar

Sorry, dumb question - who’s CK?

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Tracy E Walker's avatar

CK = Charlie Kirk, recently deceased. He also had a cult following. His wife has declared she's "taking up the torch" but that's definitely not going to work. She'll get some speaking engagements I'm sure, but always in the role of widow to a martyr, never in her own right.

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BGPicker's avatar

Kirk.

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Merc's avatar

Charlie Kirk’s wife is trying to assume that role but she’s just trying to keep the gravy train coming in

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Patsy's avatar

And since her deceased husband’s brand contained a hefty amount of misogyny, she won’t ever be able to maintain a position of true power or authority. The incels who worship Charlie Boy won’t accept a woman as a leader.

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Loquacious1's avatar

Right here is evidence of true unadulterated misogyny and the ladies of today are lapping it all up.

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Patsy's avatar

@Loquacious1, Are you implying that my statement is misogynist?

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Loquacious1's avatar

I’d never imply such a thing, I’d say it outright, and did about the OP, but if you say things like that about her husband that aren’t true and agree with the OP you are of a like mind.

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Sandra Tuttle's avatar

She wont make it 2 months, Ill bet.

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David Shaw's avatar

She is an attorney, started and ran a successful business and Kirk acknowledged his wife as being smarter than him. Since Charlie's death the number of high school turning point chapters has doubled. You are way underestimating her. It's best practice to research someone's bio before commenting on them.

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Sandra Tuttle's avatar

Chuckle. Just going on what I have seen from her.

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David Shaw's avatar

In fairness she seems to dress and act like a helpless trad wife. In reality she is a powerful assertive woman. As successful and energetic as Charlie was, he wasn't sure he was her equal.

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

Blue MAGA isn't much different. They are willing to defend people who serve Israel over us and keep voting for candidates who support genocide because they really believe voting Blue No Matter Who makes a difference. It is sad to see.

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Suzanne H's avatar

Blue MAGA??? Who is the cult leader? Please.

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Michael Ryan's avatar

Some BS only a MAGA could dream up

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

thats something only a cult member could say. They never believe they are in a cult. Vote Blue No Matter Who! Even if they support genocide and are on AIPACs payroll! Blue bombs are a kinder genocide than MAGA bombs.

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Melissa's avatar

You talking e.g. Schumer, Schiff...?

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Ole Anderson's avatar

AIPAC

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Susan Swan's avatar

They keep doing that because of citizens united. They need money and can’t afford to lose Jewish donors. End citizen’s united. Nationalize elections.

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Sandra Tuttle's avatar

I agree Sarah. A total overhaul of all three brnches is in order, focusing on accountability to the citizens, ( maybe a citizens board)?, punishment for offenses, and rooting out all corruption on both sides. Thats a big ask, but we need it to survive.

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

I mean I'm for the guillotine on billionaires and all the child raping Uniparty politicians Israel obviously has dirt on.

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Loquacious1's avatar

But why is it that people only want this when it comes to politics. Why not people like Sean Combs, the music industry, movie producers?

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Sandra Tuttle's avatar

Yeah, I wanted it then too.

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

Nice try, MAGAT.

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Douglas Nyhus's avatar

First, there is no “Blue MAGA”. Second, while the current government in Israel does not deserve support the state of Israel does. Surely you cannot believe the atrocities that precipitated the Gaza war were justified. How do you think this country would have responded if a horde of terrorists had emerged from tunnels in Tijuana and slaughtered innocent people in San Diego ? Most likely we would have carpet bombed Tijuana and invaded Mexico.

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

Lolz ok.

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Merna Krim's avatar

Tch tch tch, Sarah May

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

Who the fuck are you?

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Frank Simon's avatar

North Korea is on their third cult leader.

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Nola Krosch's avatar

North Korea us, politically speaking, a whole different animal. The position of leader is inherited. It has never been a democratic country, to my knowledge.

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Brad Hall's avatar

Yes, but North Korea is the exception. We can already see the MAGA fault lines. VD Vance vs DeSantis, vs Abbot and there may be others.

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Elix's avatar

JD?

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Amy Clements's avatar

No.

There is no successor for MAGA. It is a cult of identity and personality coalesced around one person and one person only - DJT. MAGA will not turn to Vance or the Trump children or anyone else. MAGA splinters when Trump is gone. They lose a lot of power.

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Deirdre LaMotte's avatar

Hi Amy, not so sure, unfortunately. I think the people behind Project 2025 knew Trump needed propping up. Their man is Vance, just waiting in the wings. This massive play for federal power, I believe, is an effort to solidify Vance’s power once Trump is gone. Then, it won’t matter if people are unhappy because the consolidation of Federal power will be complete.

Evil assh***s.

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Amy Clements's avatar

Still not going to happen. MAGA is all about Trump. They don't like Vance no one does and he definitely isn't capable of being president. Trump is going to be out of office soon and the collective rejoicing is going to scare the shit out of project 2025.

Also we are going to have 2024 election interference evidence coming out that will remove the rest of the regime and some in congress.

P2025 doesn't have the power it thinks it has. And their grip they do have is slipping.

It looks like they are winning but the tide is going to turn in about a month. Keep calm and carry on until then.

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Deirdre LaMotte's avatar

I do hope you are correct. However, I view Trump as nothing but a Trojan Horse for the people who are really in power. No hyperbole in this comment: the point for them is to have military in the cities as a “reasonable”

siting as we have seen recently (they know it is not about violence, it is about getting Americans used to troops occupying), gerrymandering complete and elections frozen because of “corruption”. Once these fascist have their Project 2025 complete, there will be no need for resistance; the people will have no voice. That is why these fascist can have whoever they need in place: their followers and resistance will have no say. MAGA will follow whoever spews the vile rhetoric, I am convinced. Elections will not matter because they will be rigged.

We will see, I always prepare by expecting the worse. These creeps have planned for this.

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Amy Clements's avatar

Military control of cities is a wet dream. All of it is temporary. Gerrymandering looks bad now but it's a no go long term. I already said MAGA is about Trump and they will splinter after he's gone next month. Yes they are trying a bunch of crap but they are dumb as fuck and won't be able to maintain anything for long.

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Brad Hall's avatar

I truly wish I had your confidence.

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Susan Swan's avatar

Project 2025 has what it needs in the extreme billionaires that are funding them. There are no plans to reign them in, and with the Supreme Court now a maga dream there is no path to control the power of the billionaire/trillionaire class

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Deirdre LaMotte's avatar

Susan, I agree. Apparently, it is common knowledge that Trump is nothing but a facade. The powers have manipulated him from the beginning and he knows it. His followers that are low info voters are

expendable and not needed. The monied people behind this are in charge. I cannot believe in 2025 I am typing this, that is how outlandish all of this is. But, know that all of this coup against democracy has been in the works for years. I personally believe a number of SCOTUS helped

with Project 2025.

It is all about wealth and power. Period.

Unfortunately, anyone who believes MAGA a depends on Trump is

going to be disappointed because the “cabal” is extensive and well funded.

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Marsha's avatar

But he doesn’t have the cult charisma like the fat orange stain has

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DKMoore's avatar

JD went to Rupert's house for coffee in June and suddenly DT & Jeffery were all over the papers...JD wants the crown...you know when the kids are being really quiet in the other room it might be good to see what they are up to...well JD is up to no good, being awfully quiet these days...a puppet for P25 & Thiel & Miller for sure

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Amy Clements's avatar

JD wants the crown but he can't wear it. He isn't capable of being president. It's going to be too much for him. He's not ready no matter what he says and no matter who is backing him.

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Deirdre LaMotte's avatar

When Trump is gone it will not matter. The control of the Federal government

and the literal fascist will think they have control. Unless the Dems and Independents get their act together, JD and friends will be fine. It will no longer be about a charismatic man. The fix will be in and most low info voters will be fine because Sinclair and Fox will spin.

The monied interest who benefit will be fine. The US will not be fine nor will we be a true democracy.

This has been the plan from day one: prop up Trump for the masses while

securing power.

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Marieke's avatar

This is a key difference to the situations from the 50s and 70s. There is a concentrated group of the ultra wealthy who have extremely fringe views.

Even if Trump goes, there is a rot that will remain, and it’s tied to a small group of people who control vast wealth and access to data and information.

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Sandra Tuttle's avatar

Need to get rid of Miller, Vought, and thiel.

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EaB's avatar

I like your confidence Amy! Let’s get it to spread far and wide for our future generations!

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Fall Leaves's avatar

I agree with you completely. Its also why vance is committing a hatch act violation by doing kirks podcast. It is why we hear him behind the scenes, in the background during rump interviews, etc., project 2025 and his regime know rump is sick and getting sicker. Thats why they want boots on the ground in more cities. Now with kirks murder they have another way to install vance and get maga to accept him because their plan is marshall law. The american people have protested peacefully which angers project 2025. They expected riots and looting to oust rump, but thats failed. With kirks death they have accelerated their plans with glee to destroy desent, freedom of speech, and bring us further toward total authoritarianism, which they want so they can force us into a theocracy. We must resist but peacefully.

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Carrick Wood's avatar

This is how I also see things. Trump is the appetizer (ewww) and smokescreen (with his outrageous lies, tweets, videos, and mental blanks. Vance is the main course (also ewww) and Project 2025 and its authors and the chefs. Just because the House isn’t sitting doesn’tbmean the kitchen isn’t cooking up a storm! Someone needs to close this toxic, public health hazard of an establishment! 🌭

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barbarasunnyside500's avatar

Deirdre, yours is the first post I have read here that has got it right. The Project 25 creators have tooled this for keeps. Terrifying.

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ABossy's avatar

I sadly agree. It won’t matter if the people like JD or not, the right-wing juggernaut will push ahead. The maga-right hate Democrats so much they won’t be voting for Vance per se, but against the left.

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Loquacious1's avatar

Get out your decoder rings, the evil bastards are coming for you!

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Donna's avatar

MAGA will riot if this happens. I think that is why Harris didn’t contest the election — had she won as a result of court cases and recounts, there would have been MAGA riots and we know what that looks like. This has been a long term play by the radical RW. They will not give up power. And, right now, they are the ones who hold the reins over the military.

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Merna Krim's avatar

When Trump is incapacitated, and he will be, the military leaders who are quietly waiting for this, need to JUMP in quickly and detain, Hegseth,Bondi, Miller,Vought and MIKE JOHNSON if he is designated to swear in the new potus.I hope the true “ patriots “are planning.

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Amy Clements's avatar

Trump is gone next month. Epstein files release triggers a flood and i think that is the last straw for him and others.

Election interference evidence gets rid of the rest of the regime. I think Vance is out based on evidence of coverups. Some of SCOTUS are heavily pressured to resign but that should not happen until the regime is out of power. We begin rebuilding/transformjng our country and how we live and govern ourselves next year late spring..

Think HARD about what you want to see our community and country to embrace and implement. We need to get far more involved in public life to be sure it is working for the collective.

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Laura Lee Gabelsberg's avatar

I like your positivity. I think that's what we need to be willing to stand up for. Peaceful protests and stronger engagement. I don't want to see people unable to speak their minds. This is ridiculous. We have put up with too much.

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Kirsten Provost's avatar

A replacement for Trump needs to be respected or feared. No imitations. Vance and the gang bend the knee to Trump every day. Nothing to admire or follow here. Ditto for his obsequious cabinet and congressional enablers .

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Amy Clements's avatar

Correct. No one likes Vance no one respects him and no one fears him.

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Merna Krim's avatar

I agree

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Merna Krim's avatar

AGREED!

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Merc's avatar

they sure could, if they were worthless versus the Democrats, who were all trying to be reasonable and parliamentarian.

first thing I would do if I were president is pull the Fox and Newsmax is broadcasting license to just signal. There is a new sheriff in town and then I would tax the shit out of the Trump crime Family for all their corruption and billions of dollars of crypto scams

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James Gehringer's avatar

The assumption is that elections will still matter. The current regime is working very hard to make elections moot.

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Dragon Wings's avatar

We must also be willing to “Eat the Rich!”

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Nancy K.'s avatar

Exactly. Let us remember the power of people as a collective. Polands solidarity leader, Lech Walesa, in 1980, lead the Gdansk Shipyard Strike. This UNION movement was instrumental in the fall of the brutal communist party. Lech became the president of Poland and was awarded to Nobel Peace Prize. AMERICA CAN DO THIS! ☮️💙🇺🇸

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River Art Studio's avatar

Walesa is currently on a Grand Lecture Tour across America which started August 31, 2025. He will be speaking in 28 different cities. I highly recommend anyone near these locations that is interested in Poland's solidarity leader to attend.

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Rick's avatar

Good point. He has gone much farther than either McCarthy or Nixon. He's more like Putin. Which means we could be stuck with him and his toxic enablers for a long time.

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Carolynspet's avatar

Trump won’t last much longer, his health is spiraling downward rapidly. I agree with the others who say when he’s gone the whole movement dies too.

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Merc's avatar

Hate to tell you this, but his father lived till his early 90s even with Alzheimer’s

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Carolynspet's avatar

Trump has way more than Alzheimer’s going on.

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Merc's avatar

Yeah, that was just shorthand for insanity corruption and lies

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Susan Swan's avatar

He’s gone this far thanks to citizens united 😭. Unless we could somehow fire the entire Supreme Court and start fresh there is no road that leads back to democracy

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Merc's avatar

Trump and CPAC have trained under Victor Orban, who is a competitive auto correct. There’s a reason why Steve Bannon and CPAC have held four conferences in Budapest and it’s not because of their love of goulash.

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C J's avatar

But who is Putin's successor? Exactly. No one knows.

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Nola Krosch's avatar

Putin’s successor will be whomever the Russian oligarchs agree on. They will get together behind closed doors, decide on some Party member they think they can control, who has the expertise needed to both keep the people in line and make more money for them, and they will elevate him within the ranks. I imagine US intelligence analysts who study Russia have a short list of possible candidates they are watching.

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Fekeetsa ANTIFA's avatar

One problem is the utter decimation of our intelligence service. The few with the expertise may have been able to navigate the terrain and stay in place. They walk an incredibly dangerous line. Tis unfortunate for these brave people , we will never know them, be able to laud or acknowledge their sacrifice. Their bravery, courage and honor will hopefully become an example, a part of the new culture, an example to the service built, after this nightmare ends.

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C J's avatar

Good points.

I remember in 2016 I heard an interview on NPR where the person being interviewed said, "Once we get Trump in, we can get him in line and control him."

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Nola Krosch's avatar

Yeah. Like that was ever going to happen. They only slowed him down the first time bc he had to work with seasoned politicians who had morals and a conscience. Now they have given him leeway to put ppl in important positions based solely on their loyalty to him. They clearly did not read any history of how Hitler treated his initial supporters.

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Amy Clements's avatar

He probably doesn't have one. He would have turned himself into a target that way.

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C J's avatar

True.

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Jon El's avatar

Trump isn't the most dangerous of them. He's not the smartest, hell he's not even the richest. There are bigger players in this game, people we don't see.

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Strong & Free 🍁 - Eliza's avatar

They see Trump as a Messianic figure and that won’t translate to Vance, especially because he is Catholic and there is beef between Christian Nationalists and Catholics (although I wouldn’t put it past Vance to change his religion).

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Susan Swan's avatar

I am totally expecting him to change.

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SeekingReason's avatar

We’ve never before had 24/7/365 pounding lies by every major media conglomerate! This keeps the danger in place. Address this first, then maybe the rest falls down. Nixon didn’t publicly call for citizens to be murdered, kidnapped etc.

The military and police for es were more reliable then, still infused with right wingers, but the law was upheld. Not now…the Right wing traitors have destroyed the Constitution and the laws. And politicians and FBI let them.

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Brightico's avatar

I've said it hundreds of times for the past two decades. The only way you do Republicans from ruining America is with violence. There is no other way.

It's simple really.

Q. Are MAGA Nazis?

A. Yes

Q. Were the Nazis of old stopped without the use of violence?

A. No

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Irena Mangone's avatar

How can anyone support pedophiles. Those who do are equally abhorent. Can not congress see that , are they blind or just plain stupid and greedy for money that they would sell their souls for. Such utter scummy swamp dwellers. Don’t care what rank. You are pedophiles need to be under lock and key. Not strutting the public stage. One would hope their families would run a mile from them.

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Robert Lindsay's avatar

Pedophiles?!

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MikeS's avatar

Heard of Epstein, Trump's best mate. Trump is protecting the King pedophiles. Protecting pedos is a crime and a sin. A huge sin.

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Robert Lindsay's avatar

Actually you ought to be scientific. There were no pedophiles anywhere near this case!

However it appears Trump is a child rapist! But that alone doesn’t make you a pedophile, and I don’t think he is one.

Epstein is actually a hebephile! Worse, he’s a predatory hebephile in the US anyway.

I’ll answer any questions if you want more info.

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Susan Swan's avatar

Vance is too pathetic even for MAGA. But Trump has plans to turn Maga into a family dynasty. And apparently Charlie Kirk’s wife is planning on running for senate. So there are plenty of other billionaire backed magats out there looking to fill his urine soaked shoes.

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Musc's avatar

Vance is clearly auditioning as Trump’s replacement as the Republicans begin to recognize their dependence on a weakening Trump. However, cult leaders know that you can’t survive when there’s a viable replacement and Trump has made very sure that MAGA is a cult loyal only to him. Sooner or later, Trump will be gone and it will all fall apart, seemingly overnight.

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Pamela Alcid's avatar

Vance is so devoid of his own principles it's a wonder he can go in any sustained direction. most importantly, he has ZERO RIZZ. the guy can't even order a donut.

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D Witham's avatar

Yes, I would like to hear plan B for JB.

They are all sick sick sick

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Laura Lee Gabelsberg's avatar

Agree to that point re: Vance. But at this point I think most are considering that the rule book has long been tossed aside.

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Joel Allen's avatar

Mr. Vance will have a very hard time convincing MAGA and the rest of the world he is worthy, much less capable of taking over anything based on his current performance as vice president. The world has already had enough of him. The problem lies in the fact that no one in this administration is capable of performing anything in their assigned position. Once the boneheaded bully has fallen, the rest of the heard will starve.

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Robin Howe's avatar

Vance is already miscast for multiple reasons. Name them one by one in your replies.

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Karen Odom's avatar

God, I hope you are right. He and his administration are a cancer aggressively attacking our country.

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Candice's avatar

Praise God I hope you are correct!

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R 2021's avatar

Dems left DC, how does that help?

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Just an old hippy's avatar

The problem is unlike McCarthy or Nixon Trump is only a figurehead. He struts around like he is in control but he's basically clueless. Project 2025 and the oligarchy behind it will still exist when Trump is gone. Vance is a tool of these oligarchs. Perhaps some of trumps policies will be reversed or at least softened. But the main thrust of locking in one party rule will still exist. And if Miller, Bessent and others remain, the cruelty will remain. A clean sweep is required to purge our government of these idealogues.

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Kathy Price's avatar

Also, McCarthy didn't have armed hoodlums at his disposal who were ready to beat and kidnap anyone they determined needed to be done away with.

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Rebecca Onuschak's avatar

Yes, but he had J Edgar Hoover’s FBI - same objective, different tactics. He also was the godfather of “cancel culture.”

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Rebecca Onuschak's avatar

Agreed that they will try, but they need someone to build a cult of personality around to make their strategy work, unless they have firmly and irrevocably seized power by then. My prediction is that the others will see the opening and start fighting each other for power, and we will fall back to the previous slightly less broken system. Republicans in Congress will not rally behind Vance and voluntarily cede their power again. Whether we will take the opportunity to do some larger fixing remains to be seen.

BTW I think this will all happen only when Trump dies, not at some grand moment of reckoning. There have already been at least a dozen “political career ending” events where I would say “if that could not do it, nothing can.” He is not Nixon or McCarthy, neither of whom led a cult-like base and both of whom led a nation that still taught and valued critical thinking.

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Just an old hippy's avatar

Thank you for your response. I agree Vance does not have the charisma to hold the maga crowd together. He will however follow the orders of the pay pal mafia who put him where he is now. If the most incompetent people trump has put in place are replaced the writers of project 2025 will remain in place. They will continue to try to cement minority rule in place. These people believe that they deserve to rule the country. Their attitude is this is their country and they only allow us to live here.

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Sam Blancato's avatar

I think with Trumps demise four things will weaken the MAGA movement and project 2025.

First, the total sidelining of the GOP congress will be over. They’re very afraid of Trump and once he’s gone they may get their stones back and vote and act like independent legislators again.

Secondly, without the “grotesque charisma” of Trump many MAGA monkeys will start to question the general tone and aggressive nature of 2025.

Thirdly, the judiciary will have a harder time shitting on the constitution if they aren’t under threat of Trump.

Finally, with Trump gone will the SCOTUS still be as willing to rule by shadow docket ALL THE TIME? Maybe not.

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Just an old hippy's avatar

Thanks for the response. Some of congress may exercise free will but most will still be owned.

project 2025 is designed to keep them in power. We can hope it cracks.

The judiciary is the only branch of government that is standing up now hopefully they can have a breather

The supreme court is a creation of the heritage foundation I don’t see that changing.

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RuleofLawRules's avatar

But the point of Project 2025 is to consolidate power before opposition can succeed and then crush it with said power. They don’t care if they are popular.

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RuleofLawRules's avatar

This

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Fekeetsa ANTIFA's avatar

There is a problem with this work. The next in line fo7thr the throne is Vance. People have a tendency to write him off as of not great consequences or concern. Vance was chosen by eastern and western oligarchs. He answers to them, not the GOP or the PEOPLE. The 2nd problem is the systematic destruction of too many important agencies, loss of a *mostly* apolitical civil service, and a loss of important governmental "culture ". No, we may not all agree on the importance of certain agencies etc. But they were established for a reason. Now we have loyalists in important positions, they will still be at their posts, no matter who POTUS is. Massive deregulation, loss of important checks and balances have been obliterated. Just look to the heads of many agencies and cabinet members. Then look to those who employed them before they entered the government. People were upset about Fox personalities receiving high level slots. But Fox is a cover. Murdoch was the employer. Thiel, Koch, Zuckerberg etc etc. These people now set the rules. Their people are all in place at the Federal level, and State level in certain areas and have their orders. The GOP isn't afraid of Trump per se, that's more of a meme. But the Oligarchy...they are terrified of them.

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PeachBlossom's avatar

Your analysis gives me a sliver of hope. However, McCarthy, Nixon, et.al., didn't have to deal with the swiftness of the internet and social media to "spread lies twice around the world before the truth has its pants on," as the old saying goes.

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PeachBlossom's avatar

This was meant as a general reply to this Substack post.

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Metaphor's avatar

Yes. My concern as well.

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No Justice No Peace's avatar

THIS!!!

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PEACE, LOVE, RESIST's avatar

Those who make the final call to throw trump under the bus will not escape the same fate. I think MAGA is such a toxic movement in this country that it will be a shameful thing to admit that one was a believer in the cult with the pedophile leader. I think when they finally can’t deny trumps complete involvement in the Epstein files and his level of participation in the abuse of underage girls as young as 12 or 13, he will quickly go fuckity bye.

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Loquacious1's avatar

When will you finally admit that you allowed a puppet leadership run our country without being voted into office? Ever? Out of all the claims and righteous indignation, not once have any of you said a thing against this but you would in a heartbeat make up an insurrection when it was actually a small band of rogue protesters being led by themselves.🪧 None of you have mentioned Hunter Biden’s laptop, but are ALL over those Epstein Rolodex files! If you ever wonder how society will look back on any of this, don’t forget to include your parts in it too because they are many and you have blood on your hands now because people are being killed for all the anger and hate you’ve spewed and continue on spewing everywhere you can.

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ech's avatar

You are lost in the cult,and are completely oblivious to reality.

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Kelly's avatar

But but HUNTER’s LAPTOP!!!

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Tina's avatar

As a former democrat, I can attest to my concerns that Biden was really incapable of running a country. I believe his party was very aware of his issues and spent 4 yrs ignoring the citizens concerns and gaslighting them instead.

The same could be said for the Trump admin. Trump is a narcissist and he has plugged into and used America’s frustration to push the agendas of others too.

What exactly has the current administration done for its citizens?

I’m not asking that question to be hateful or insulting. I’m asking because, as a country, we are in a pickle. Is see the current administration dismantling education and healthcare. What exactly will replace them? I see social programs being threatened as in Medicare, Medicaid and social security. What will be its replacement or will it just go away?

I see a government based on everything has a price and we will pay for it. This is a simple example: every fee you pay on every transaction you make. Small amount, but you’re paying to use your own money and someone else is benefiting.

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PEACE, LOVE, RESIST's avatar

Haha.

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Loquacious1's avatar

Now you’re funny too? Good luck, you’ll need it.

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Kelly's avatar

🙄

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David Shaw's avatar

If those allegations about underage girls are true, why then didn’t Biden release the files proving this since he had four years in which to do so? I’ve never understood that part of it.

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Amy Clements's avatar

Yes eventually most MAGA will be too ashamed to admit they ever supported him.

Epstein is the scandal that pushes him out. He will either die or resign soon "for his health" but it will be due to scandal.

Don't forget about election interference. That's coming up too.

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Kelly's avatar

And giving comfort to insurrectionists.

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Kelly's avatar

I’m not so sure. He didn’t go facility bye for his insurrection that trashed the Capitol and killed people. His supporters and the brainwashed Congress and the supreme Court he purchased will support him.

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Steve Doll's avatar

I can hardly see a cadre of Repugs walking in to the Dump's office and saying, "You're out, buddy". His sycophants ARE the Repug party, and they have allowed themselves to become that way out of fear and cringing cowardice that HE will come after THEM. He has ruined a lot of careers and will continue to do so. The only thing that will bring him down is an erosion of MAGA support when they believe he's more of a liability than an asset. That hasn't happened yet because MAGA types NEVER admit they've been wrong about anything.

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TSmale's avatar

Can't happen soon enough. Every day is a new horror from this cruel evil lawless regime.

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David Shaw's avatar

My stock portfolio looks great, inflation is nearly nonexistent, and gasoline prices are headed in the right direction. If this is horror, then I'll take more of it.

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

McCarthy fell in a sentence. Nixon fell in a tape. Trump will fall in whatever form of receipt history finds most humiliating. Maybe a court ruling. Maybe a leaked voicemail where he calls himself “Sir.”

The point is power always looks permanent right before it vanishes. That is the magic trick. Then one day the crowd blinks, the lights hit the con too bright, and the strongman is just another man begging the party to love him back.

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Ms. Peairs's avatar

This gives me hope.

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Amy Clements's avatar

If only it would happen tomorrow. I've been waiting for him to be gone for months. Sick of him and MAGA too. We need to get them out so we can start clean up and rebuild.

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Lynn's avatar

I’m not so sure. This time around he has ALL the levers of power at his chubby, orange, stubby fingertips.

Did Nixon have the DOJ, FBI, The Armed Forces, IRS, FCC, FTC, etc?

How about a corrupted Supreme Court to back his criminality?

How about 10 billionaires and their money bowing and scraping to his lordship?

How about 26 sniveling red state governors? You want my National Guard? Sure.

Voter suppression and gerrymandering ? Sure. Anything else, King?

Did Nixon have the fascists at the Heritage Foundation all placed in positions of power to commence their project 2025?

The Federalist Society?

Or how about ALL our private information? Address, city, voting, drivers license, IRS filings, passport and SOCIAL SECURITY documentation?

I don’t think you or anyone else truly understands the depth and breath of how much power TFG has and can use.

If not him then Nazi Peter Thiel’s puppet Vance..who will use it without reservation. They’ll simply use all their information about you against you and your family. These two will try to fulfill their dream of a religious, white supremacist country ruled over by billionaires.

I really don’t like to be pessimistic but I think we are well and truly screwed.

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Linda's avatar

Stay positive. Lots can happen.

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David Shaw's avatar

What the vast majority of people do not understand at all: The deep state (IC) likely killed Kennedy. The deep state (FBI) took down Goldwater. We now know through the FOIA that it is likely the deep state took down Nixon via the Watergate setup since they were too timid to shoot another president. Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama are the deep state. The deep state tried to take down Trump and miscalculated. They began to rely too heavily on vote fraud and screwed up. Trump hired people to control the voter fraud in 2024 and here we are. If these concepts are alien to you, maybe rethink what you read and where your news source is. The Deep State hates Trump because they can't control him. The deep state wants endless war in the Middle East. Get it? It's not R vs D and never has been.

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Bookworm57's avatar

He is a narcissist and will burn everything down on his way out. He has NO decency.

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Asher Ginsberg's avatar

I wish.

The cult has been around for so long I don’t see it crashing to fast.

They are bringing Trump made up approval number.

He thinks he is the most popular President ever.

He’s not backing down so fast.

And how does someone like Mike Johnson who enabled the worst pedophile ring in history, just turn around and admit he was wrong.

Or any member of Congress.

It feels hopeless.

He destroyed this country.

And frankly we are past the point of return.

North Korea didn’t collapse.

It’s the same as it always was.

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David Shaw's avatar

After getting the hostages home and a peace deal in Gaza, Trump's popularity is rising and is at least about 50% give or take 2% margin of error.

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Melanie SK's avatar

Unfortunately you’ve got the playbook wrong. It’s not Roy Cohn. It’s Hitler and Mussolini. We’re in for a rough ride.

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Aaron Roman's avatar

✊ Hold fast, and keep up the good work.

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C J's avatar

I don't think MAGA will survive after he is gone. He is a unique individual, remarkably unparalleled in any political setting. He is wrong and he is wrong often. He is brazen in his defense of it, even after the evidence is right in front of him. I know of no one who doubles and triples down an error even when the truth is brought before them. No Republican, no Democrat, no Independant. No one has the audacity to hold their grotesquely altered moral compass out there so proudly without an ounce of shame. No one.

There will be other crazy far right and far left figures in our future. But no one will ever do what he did to our country.

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Senjik's avatar

Agreed, he has a unique psychopathy caused by severe neglect throughout his childhood. There's a reason he seems to behave like a child - his impulsivity, inability to admit mistakes, seeing everything as black and white, all of it is because he never matured emotionally past early childhood. He is completely unique and impossible to replace.

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KPB's avatar
Sep 19Edited

He breaks everything he touches.

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Rebecca Onuschak's avatar

I think they will. He has unfortunately provided the playbook to whomever is audacious and charismatic enough to use it.

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Donovan Marley's avatar

The hopelessly corrupt Republican Party is conspiring with convicted criminal, Donald Trump, and convicted sex trafficker, Ghislaine Maxwell, to hide their sordid truths reported in the Epstein files.

Maxwell and Trump are not the only self-interested parties lying about their sexual exploitation of children. Epstein’s clients included some of the world’s richest and most powerful men. It appears that some of these are using their power, influence, and money in a frantic effort to keep their names from being publicly released.

But the most disturbing facts covered by lies are coming from inside the Trump Administration’s Department of Justice. Why was Epstein permitted to operate his Pedophile Service for Billionaires in Florida while Florida’s Attorney General was Pam Bondi?

Why did Pam Bondi, after her confirmation as the Attorney General of the United States, abruptly break her promise to release the Epstein files? Was it in response to threats from Billionaire pedophiles? Specifically, was it in response to pressure from Donald Trump?

Or did Pam Bondi find information of a criminal collusion involving Alex Acosta, and Jeffrey Epstein that explains why the Republican Administrations—State and Federal—permitted Epstein to continue raping children after he was first exposed, arrested, convicted, and sentenced in Florida.

Republican U.S. Attorney, Alex Acosta, caved to Epstein’s lawyers and agreed to a “plea-bargain” of—(not 13 years)—but 13 months. THIRTEEN MONTHS!

In the most outrageous plea deal in the history of pedophilia, Alex Acosta—with no objection from Florida’s Governor or Attorney General—allowed Epstein to continue to operate his “business,” AND CONTINUE TO RAPE CHILDREN, six days a week during daytime hours if he agreed to be confined to a jail cell for 12 hours each night, and 24 hours on Sundays—for thirteen months. Just thirteen months.

Release of the Epstein files obviously threatens Donald Trump, Alex Acosta, and Pam Bondi. The prospect of the release has made the entire Republican Party hysterical. The American people deserve to know why.

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John Laurie's avatar

I hope you are right, but I suspect you are not. The political demise of Trump will have little effect because the Project 2025 ghouls will still be in control. Trump is simply the ‘useful idiot’ for the christofascists behind him, pulling the strings.

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Robin Howe's avatar

Don’t forget his health… That may be only way he goes

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